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pyatnitskayaPostAugust 12, 2026, 11:08
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Innuos Sense 26 (currently in Beta) introduces support for classical music metadata. It now shows correctly Works and titles (discussion ongoing about showing Movements) information about orchestras and conductors etc.

One issue is with ALAC files (and presumably AAC) for conductors:
Yate maps Conductor in MPEG-4 to ----:com.apple.iTunes:CONDUCTOR (read fallback Conductor). It has no mapping for the short atom ©con, which Innuos Sense writes and reads — Yate shows it in the Unhandled panel.
Two requests:
1 Read ©con into the Conductor field, and ideally write it alongside the freeform atom.
2 More generally: the Custom Field Editor's "MPEG-4 ---- atom name" box can only name a freeform atom inside a ---- wrapper. There's no way to define a custom field targeting a standard 4-character atom. Typing ©con there produces ----:com.apple.iTunes:©con with the © as two UTF-8 bytes (C2 A9) — silently useless, and it looks plausible in the UI. Either allow a standard atom to be specified, or reject/warn on a non-ASCII atom name.

2MR2PostAugust 12, 2026, 11:14
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I'll look into both issues.

v10.0 of Yate is coming soon.

2MR2PostAugust 12, 2026, 22:28
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1 Read ©con into the Conductor field, and ideally write it alongside the freeform atom.

I've implemented support for the ©con atom. Your can choose to write any of CONDUCTOR, Conductor or ©con. You can choose to read all. I'm loathe to write multiple encodings of a tag as getting out of sync is always an issue when other taggers are involved.

2 More generally: the Custom Field Editor's "MPEG-4 ---- atom name" box can only name a freeform atom inside a ---- wrapper. There's no way to define a custom field targeting a standard 4-character atom. Typing ©con there produces ----:com.apple.iTunes:©con with the © as two UTF-8 bytes (C2 A9) — silently useless, and it looks plausible in the UI. Either allow a standard atom to be specified, or reject/warn on a non-ASCII atom name.

The Custom Field Editor only allows for the creation of ----:com.apple.iTunes: form atoms in MPEG-4 atoms. Entering an © is unusual but perfectly valid. If we implement the ability to specify four character atom codes, there'll be a means of explicitly specifying the atom. However, additional information will have to be provided such as numeric or text, etc. As far as issuing a warning, any UTF8 character is supported. This has never come up since 2012 🙂

The ©con support will be in Yate v10.0.

pyatnitskayaPostAugust 22, 2026, 05:37
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Thanks a lot. I very much look forward to v10!
I understand the reluctance to write multiple encodings, but in that case, if I map the Conductor field to ©con, can I then create a custom field mapped to the CONDUCTOR atom so I can then copy from one field to the other?

2MR2PostAugust 22, 2026, 09:58
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v10.0 will allow you to select one of ©com, Conductor or CONDUCTOR to be the write method. You can elect to read all or only the method assigned to be written.

You do not need a custom field to be able to handle Yate's conductor field. Whatever was read when loading the file will be available.

If you want separate access to all three items, you will have to disable reading all three. ie. if you assign ©com, you can then freely access Conductor and CONDUCTOR as UDTIs or in custom fields. Once written, if you change the setting to again read all, the next time the file is read all will be merged and if you save the file again only the single specified write method will be used.

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