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minklet
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Post Cant figure out if this the right solution
on: September 15, 2020, 07:05
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I have been struggling to find the right solution to what I want to do and yate seems to be infinitely powerful, but that means I also just can't get my head round all the various options

Aside from my Artist > Album folders, I have a massive Various folder that contains thousands of individual tracks, full EPs etc. I am wanting to start organising these starting with the id3 tags as they are sporadic and not uniform. I realise that there would be a lot of manual intervention and that is fine, I just want to be able to populate the majority via discogs etc

However it doesn't seem like I can search Discogs or another service for individual tracks? For example, I have the massive folder imported, I click on one track - Real to Reel - Love Me Like This.mp3. It has the track and artist tag filled in correctly, and that's it, how do I search for that on a tag service and retrieve the metadata and populate?

2MR2
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Post Re: Cant figure out if this the right solution
on: September 15, 2020, 09:30
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The issue with folders containing thousands of tracks is one of context. Both the DIscogs and MusicBrainz wizards work on releases (albums) rather than tracks. Again, this is because matching is better when dealing with more than a single track.

The first step in these situations is somehow dividing the large folder in many smaller folders which makes it easier to work with.

You could use AcoustID in the UI where you could see potential matches. However, this will soon become tiresome with thousands of tracks.

One approach would be to have an action which would fingerprint, access AcoustID and make individual track based decisions on matches. Once this is done a subsequent action could move all the files to grouped folders. This would certainly be easier to work with.

Acoustic fingerprinting is not an exact science ... false matches will be made when processing thousands of files. For this reason, I suggest saving the initial basic metadata in the files or in a database (or both). The space overhead for a few additional tags in each file is insignificant and they can be removed at a later time. The matching process can update the database so that you could look at it at your leisure. In fact the process could even save the matching results to the database and not actually save them to the files. Lots of ways to go.

This is the only way to handle the mess in a more or less automated manner.

One question is are there sub-folders containing tracks inside the Various folder? It doesn't really matter other than which mode the action should be run.

If you wish I can knock off an action to get you started. You could then look at the database and se if you're happy with the results.

minklet
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Post Re: Cant figure out if this the right solution
on: September 17, 2020, 07:48
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There are no subfolders, and acoustic ID is unlikely to find most of them. I've tried it a few times, but they are relatively obscure underground electronic tracks that exist on discogs but shazam, for example, gets them wrong most of the time.

Tbh I'm not really looking to move the files themselves, only tidy up the tags. Indeed there are so many artists with single releases, that this would most likely double the work...it sounds like this isn't really possible from what you're saying

2MR2
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Post Re: Cant figure out if this the right solution
on: September 17, 2020, 08:00
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If the basic Album and Album Artist (or Artist tags) are more or less correct you could always run either the Discogs or MusicBrainz wizards one track at a time. Obviously this would be tedious.

There is a group of actions on the resources page called Search Discogs/MusicBrainz. They basically do searches and present the mappings to the files. Running these once for each track would also be tedious. However, it would be easy to loop these actions over every loaded track. Again, not my idea of fun but you could do it a little at a time. Take a look at these action. It may be possible to derive something from them.

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